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1	Speaker 1:	00:00	Um, all I can, all I can say is that, um, uh, my only warning is that as you probably know, like you can’t control the rest of the humans in your house or the cat and dog. Yeah. It’s been pretty quiet actually. So, um, no dog, which is good, that those are the noisy ones, so, yes. Um, right. Yep. Cool. All right. Um, so if you could just say,
2	Jacob Hacker:	00:39	I’m going to close up my, um, my, my email and stuff, because it’ll, it’ll, um, it can possibly create sounds and stuff like that. Also good. It will be less likely to, uh, use up bandwidth. Uh, I think I closed everything, but,
3	Speaker 1:	01:13	Okay, great. Awesome. So I’m, I’m Sean coffee. Uh, awesome. Uh, you, they’re not going to see me, so my background doesn’t matter. Um, and so if you could just state and spell your name for the editor.
4	Jacob Hacker:	01:30	Sure. My name is Jacob packer, H a C K E R. I’m pretty sure you can get Jacob.
5	Speaker 1:	01:39	Um, yeah, so, uh, we can kind of want to focus on what’s happening right now. Um, you know, we we’ve shot a lot on, um, sort of hypotheticals that might stress the economic system out. And, um, and now here we are, uh, kind of the film takes a left turn, uh, with it going from hypothetical to, to an actual stressor. Um, so can you tell me how the different classes like the wealthy middle-class and maybe the working poor or experiencing this pandemic differently?
6	Jacob Hacker:	02:23	Yeah, well, I mean, I think it’s obvious that we are seeing all of the extreme, you’re going to quality that we have in our society magnified by this crisis and laid bare by this crisis. Um, you know, there’s, uh, I think Warren buffet colorfully once said something to the effect of when the tide goes out, you see who’s swimming naked, um, and you know, when the economic tide goes out and you see who really has the kinds of economic wealth and support necessary to weather a crisis like this and that we’ve done it now, I think it’s pretty clear that the broad middle class has been hit enormously hard by this because most Americans don’t have much in the way of savings to deal with economic downturns. And, um, we’ve seen a little increase in wages for typical workers over the last generation. Um, but it’s those who are, who are either really struggling or in parts of the economy that have been hit hardest, um, that you really see the, the effects.	COVID, economic crisis
7	Jacob Hacker:	03:27	So, um, people whose lively live dependent on face to face contact, um, who depended on service provision, those folks who work in restaurants and hotels and all of the rest of the economy that, um, that relies on this huge pool of low wage labor, um, retail to big portions of the retail sector have been clobbered. So all these areas have been decimated. And, you know, we talk about, um, you know, whether people who work for good firms have enough paid leave, well, if you work for these firms, you don’t have paid leave. You don’t have sick days. You didn’t have flexible hours before the crisis. You don’t, you’re not working at all now. Um, and so we’ve seen a surge in, uh, in need, you know, and, and the only being, um, you know, very partially addressed by what Congress has done so far. Um, you know, food banks are over, are overflowing with people who need help. Um, you know, we’re seeing huge desperation and, and of course we’re seeing people who are experiencing both a loss of income and massive new expenses, because they may well have family members, um, or they themselves may need medical care during this crisis. So, you know, I, I have to say, you know, I’ve studied risk and economic insecurity and class inequality in the United States, my whole life. And I never expected to see something like this. This makes the great recession look like it was, uh, you know, a, a bump in the road compared, uh, comparatively.	service workers, essential workers, paid sick leave
8	Speaker 1:	05:03	And, um, w you know, the, the stock market went down and now it’s come back up, you know, can you like, and the news as kind of, you know, latched on to that as a Ray of hope, um, can you speak to the, um, it’s kind of like almost two economies, um, um, that, that, yes, that’s a decent indicator, but for the majority of people, it means nothing.
9	Jacob Hacker:	05:35	Yeah. I mean, you know, the stock market is not the real economy, and we know that because we know that the stock market will often go up to when, you know, you get a bad unemployment report because they think that, you know, because there are lots of investors are saying, Oh, there’s not going to be as much pressure on wages. And so we won’t see the fed raise interest rates. So, but it’s also not the real economy, because if you look at the stock market who hold stocks, the vast majority is held by the richest Americans. So the, there are, you know, uh, there are chunk of Americans who are doing relatively well, who have some money invest in the stock market and their retirement accounts. But even for like, middle-class Americans who have 401ks or other kinds of retirement investments, we actually don’t have that much wealth accumulated in the stock market.	stock market, real economy
10	Jacob Hacker:	06:32	So it’s notable that, you know, president Trump has treated the stock market as it is as like the true barometer of the overall economy. And, and let’s be clear before this crisis, the job market was looking relatively healthy, but, um, but it’s just, there’s very little relationship to the real economy. And, and moreover, you know, the, the reason that it’s been so high is partly because the Trump administration cut taxes on the richest Americans and on corporations who then turned around and went on a buying spree, corporations were buying back their own shares to do stock crisis. So it’s a little, it’s a little ironic to say, Oh, my administration is doing so much for ordinary Americans because the stock market is flying high. When in fact, one of the main reasons the stock market has been declining high is essentially that, um, there was this massive tax cut for the rich in 2017.	stock market, tax cuts, stock buybacks

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1	Jacob Hacker:	00:00:00	It certainly feels like that every day, these days. Um, but I’m a little more optimistic. Yeah. Certainly not counting my, uh, my elections before they happen, but are chickens before they hatch, but I’m feeling a little more confident about things. Cool. Yeah. Just let me know when you guys are ready. Awesome.
2	Speaker 2:	00:00:21	How’s the sound? Good? We’re rolling. Awesome. Cool. Um, so what we have, we have a lot, uh, a lot shot where you’re probably our last, um, expert. Um, so this is the best for that. Yes, absolutely. And so we have, we have some, you know, some things we’re trying to connect, um, yeah. Kind of the connection between, um, Milton Freeman, uh, Powell, um, Reagan. Yep. The think tanks and McConnell.
3	Jacob Hacker:	00:00:57	Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s a few steps between those, but yeah. But yeah, no, that’s definitely, that’s definitely a, there’s some continuity there. Yeah. So, I mean, right. So we’ve already spoken already. I know you grabbed my work, so, you know, whatever you feel like is important to cover so that you can have content on particular topics is totally fine with me. And don’t, don’t, I, I won’t be thrown off if we jump from one topic to another or anything like that, so.
4	Speaker 2:	00:01:25	Okay. Can you just maybe freeform some of that? Sure does.
5	Jacob Hacker:	00:01:31	Yeah. So, I mean, if you think back to when the Powell memorandum was written, so Louis Powell is writing in 1971 about the challenges that corporations were facing and he would soon become a Supreme court justice, but at the time he was writing to the business community in particular, the chamber of commerce, or what is he writing? It’s the national association of manufacturers. Do you remember? I don’t know. Okay. We can go back. Yeah. So, yeah. So if we think back to, um, to the early 1970s, when, when Louis Powell was writing this, um, call to arms for corporate America, you know, he would soon be on the Supreme court, but at the time he was really writing a, a strategy memo for, for corporate lobbies, um, to think about how they could push back against what he saw as this sort of creeping leftism in American politics as personified by the fact that, you know, Ralph Nader was getting such a hearing in cap on Capitol Hill.	Lewis Powell, Powell Memo, Chamber of Commerce, Negation of the Negation
6	Jacob Hacker:	00:02:26	And, um, Richard Nixon was expanding social security and, and, you know, trying to support labor unions even as he was, you know, fomenting division among voters. Um, and pal was really thinking that the corporate world was disadvantaged because it wasn’t organized and it wasn’t organized in Washington. And so there were two parts to this effort. One was to sort of build up the organs of corporate influence, right? And after the pal men random was written, the business round table later would form, uh, in the early 1980s and late 1970s, we to the formation of much more powerful political action committees, much more powerful lobbying shops, much more money poured into politics. Um, but the other thing, um, or even more revealing, I think, um, you know, you saw more and more of these corporate headquarters and, uh, corporate, um, chieftains moved their operations, their political operations, uh, to Washington, right?
7	Jacob Hacker:	00:03:20	Cause that’s where the action was. But the other thing he was saying is that, you know, were the conservatives had lost the war of ideas and what they needed to do is invest in rebuilding, um, strong faith in the American free enterprise system. And of course this was a vision of the free enterprise system that bore little resemblance to what had made America rich in the mid 20th century. You know, at the time that that Powell was writing, we were coming off the most prosperous period in American history, built on huge investments in research and development, uh, in, um, in the, uh, educational capital of America, you know, both institutions and people that DEI bill had, uh, you know, encouraged homeownership, encourage vets to go to college. Um, in the 1960s, we saw the expansion of Medicare and social security. Um, and so in these peer, in this period, right, we were seeing a partnership between government and the private sector that was actually producing enormous prosperity.
8	Jacob Hacker:	00:04:17	But the idea is that that Powell was talking about, and that many of the corporate leaders of the day were investing in, were ideas that said the market should rule. Um, and that government had gotten too big and too overbearing, too regulatory, too expensive. Um, and, uh, and they now, they, they spent a lot of money. They did a lot of things. So they, they there’s, you know, if you think about the think tanks that now dominate conservative Washington, the heritage foundation, uh, the Cato Institute, the American enterprise Institute, um, and those are sort of, some of those are now seen as pretty moderate compared with some more extreme Oregon’s of right wing influence. Um, but all those organizations were either created or expanded in the 1970s and eighties with a lot of corporate money, uh, and a lot of big, uh, corporate philanthropists, you know, the core, his family, for example, sunk a ton of money into building up these kinds of think tanks and things really changed in Washington really quickly.	Powell Memo, Think Tanks, Philanthropy, free markets
9	Jacob Hacker:	00:05:17	Um, you know, we, uh, we forget that in 1976, you know, when, when Jimmy Carter was elected, the agenda of politics was dominated by a few key questions, right. Uh, that seem really foreign to us. Uh, in many ways today, one was how quickly would we get to national health insurance, right? Uh, another was how are we gonna, you know, make sure that labor unions remained strong because they were starting to lose their membership and labor unions were pushing for a whole new set of labor laws that would help the same kind of labor lives that we saw in other countries in this period like Canada, that helped unions maintain a strong presence, even as the economy changed. And the, and the third thing is that, um, that the, uh, the agenda was still very much around regulation of business, make sure that we protect the environment.
10	Jacob Hacker:	00:06:04	Nixon had created the EPA and it was expanding. Um, we saw consumer protection regulations, and in fact, a big consumer protection bill was on the agenda in the, in the mid to late 1970s. Um, and you really see the corporate onslaught between 1978 and 1980, because after the 1978 midterm elections, essentially all of the goals for sort of completing the new deal, uh, re re making sure that the regulatory state, uh, would take on these new challenges, the country face like environmental protect, environmental risks, and, um, that, uh, would ensure that the kinds of civic groups and large scale organizations like labor unions that sort of made our politics a middle-class politics, that these would remain vibrant. All the policies seeking that basically died between 1978 and 1980, it was a graveyard. And in fact, after these policies died, there was a, you know, a big consumer financial, uh, uh, sorry.

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Terry Hailey

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1	Speaker 1:	00:00	You’re in Mexico, right? [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] maybe we’ll get a little visual. [inaudible] you’re a little test way trust. You can just close this door. Yeah. Where are you guys from? Um, from, uh, from your city is really for the Bay area. Last time I was in the Bay area, it was down on the Wharf down there. It was the middle of August that it was cold. It was, I mean, I wasn’t used to that. It was cold. [inaudible] do you mind just for audio, tell me we get breakfast this morning. I had, uh, two pieces of bacon and a microwave and a two pieces of toast with butter on it. And a cup of coffee. I might not have. Yeah, you might want to check up just to peek at that receipt I made up. I might turn it off. You gotta be owned. Doesn’t it? Yeah, they can come up. We can put this back in your pocket. Is it on, is that number two? Oh, may I see that? I’m sorry, one more second. This is number two. Okay, great. All right. And, uh, may I sure can’t beat him with a stick you’re right. How’s that now better? Nope. Great. Can you tell me again about breakfast?
2	Terry Hailey:	03:24	Two strips of bacon in the microwave when, uh, also a couple of pieces of toast with butter and a cup of coffee.
3	Speaker 1:	03:34	Sorry, one second. One cup of coffee. You said one cup of coffee,
4	Terry Hailey:	04:01	Dunkin donuts, coffee,
5	Speaker 1:	04:04	Delicious.
6	Terry Hailey:	04:08	It is. And they, and they feel like it is too. And you buy it in the cake cup. It really is.
7	Speaker 1:	04:24	Thanks for coming out. Sure. It’s appreciated. Um, you wanna, um, first, if you just spell your name,
8	Terry Hailey:	04:36	Right? I knew that was coming. Terry Haley, T E R R Y H a I L E Y.
9	Speaker 1:	04:46	And, um, and what do you do here in union city
10	Terry Hailey:	04:55	And union city? I’m the, uh, the mayor of town, uh, since 1988. And I’ve been in the broadcasting business for the last 52 years. Just recently sold radio stations.

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1	Nick Hanauer:	0:00:39	What is it?
2	Jeff:	0:00:39	Using that one.
3	Dave:	0:00:39	Totally compromised [crosstalk 00:00:39]
4	Jeff:	0:00:39	Test, test, test. Two, one, two.
5	Dave:	0:00:39	[crosstalk 00:00:39] true facts I could probably find. [inaudible 00:00:39].
6	Nick Hanauer:	0:00:41	I think that’ll be awesome to mirror [crosstalk 00:00:41]
7	Jeff:	0:00:42	Check, check, check, check.
8	Nick Hanauer:	0:00:43	Will be awesome.
9	Dave:	0:00:48	It’ll polarize the area though.
10	Nick Hanauer:	0:00:50	He wants his 500K up front.

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Harris

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1	Regina Hill:	00:00	So if I’m slower and you say, well, it’s because
2	Speaker 2:	00:03	We’re not here to look, make you look bad, we’re here to find out what the challenges are here.
3	Regina Hill:	00:11	So I guess when I say that some of the things I might not be able to answer, cause I haven’t had time to research it, but I can tell you from my perspective and I look at you. Yeah, I do. I look okay.
4	Speaker 2:	00:34	[inaudible] please state spell your name.
5	Regina Hill:	00:37	Yes. My name is Regina. I heal R E G I N a M middle initial I H I L L city commissioner here in the city of Orlando district five.
6	Speaker 2:	00:52	So what is your main role as commissioner?
7	Regina Hill:	00:56	Uh, it depends on who you might ask. Uh, actually it is to put policy in place, budgets in place. And, but for me personally, I believe my, uh, role is to be all things to all people sometime I’m that nurturer sometime I am that provider, of course we’re resources sometime I’m that builder sometime I am that deliver of great news and not so great news. Um, well some of the challenges I write right now, as we would speak, it would be employment due to, uh, the new norm that we’re in called COVID-19. And many of my constituents and business owners, uh, being, uh, now closing down due to COVID and lack of, uh, assistance or resources are those resources that might have been available, uh, after the shed down now being exhausted and many of the jobs that they went to every day right now, um, being, uh, I would say those are being furloughed are now won’t come back and years to come. Um, so getting people, uh, gainfully employed, uh, cause we could talk about housing. We could talk about health components, but uh, for those that don’t have options to become reemployed, uh, are having resources because of the unemployment. It’s a challenge, it’s a challenge to pay their bills. It’s a challenge to make sure that their children and loved ones have foods and healthy foods, keeping the lights on and fear of the unknown. So common people, fears and employment more so common people fears. The scary job
8	Speaker 2:	03:05	Is your mind. Is there an affordable housing crisis, Florida particular intervention?
9	Regina Hill:	03:09	Well, well, but the data, the data, uh, speaks to that, especially here in central Florida in Orlando area, that there is a crisis when it comes to affordable housing, but I’m proud to say through leadership here in the city of Orlando, specifically Mary Dyer, myself, uh, and our city council, uh, here in the last three years, I would hope and would say that we lead the Southeast region with creating affordable housing, uh, up until now we have invested over 40 million plus dollars, uh, into affordable housing primarily and my district and have created over 1600 units in the last three years. Uh, for those that are at 60% of the average medium income are below yesterday, I just broke ground on another 116 affordable units, uh, for permanent supportive housing for those that are homeless and those that are under 60% of the average median income and the pine Hills mercy drive corner.
10	Speaker 2:	04:18	Okay.

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1	David Himmelste…: Speaker 2: Speaker 3:	00:00 00:04 00:05	Himmelstein. H-I-M-M-E-L-S-T-E-I-N. Are we rolling? We’re rolling. Can you listen to it?
2	Speaker 2:	00:06	Of course.
3	Speaker 3:	00:08	[inaudible 00:00:08]. Do that again. I’m sorry.
4	David Himmelste…:	00:12	My name is David Himmelstein, [inaudible 00:00:14]. It’s spelled H-I-M-M-E-L-S-T-E-I-N.
5	Speaker 3:	00:20	Good.
6	Speaker 2:	00:21	Okay.
7	Speaker 3:	00:21	Awesome. So [inaudible 00:00:27], you’ll just talk to me like a regular conversation.
8	Speaker 2:	00:29	I’m sorry, were rolling, I’m not seeing any bright lights.
9	Speaker 3:	00:35	So, make it roll. [inaudible 00:00:42].
10	Speaker 2:	00:36	There you go.

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1	Speaker 1:	01:35	Sure. Okay. How are you doing? Good. How are you? Good. I think you have to unmute yourself muted here. Can you hear me? Um, can you hear me? Okay, same as system. You don’t hear me now. I can hear you. Okay. All of a sudden that’s funny, right. Um, okay, great. Uh, just give me a second here.
2	Speaker 2:	05:15	Um, how have you been? I’m good, fine worlds. Um, okay, good. Well, you know, we, we, um, it’s definitely slowed us down. Um, but, but we never stopped shooting. Um, which is great. Um, uh, but you know, th and, and then at the same time, it’s bad for the world, but COVID sort of has become the great revealer. Um, so it’s good for the movie, you know, as, as showing where, um, you know, where our, um, where, where we’re, um, it’s kind of the stress test for, for, you know, what’s been happening, um, in the, in the world. Certainly. Um, so I’ll just jump right in, um, you know, Mitch, the Corona virus, uh, we kind of have a tale of two worlds here in the United States. Um, the wealthy and the middle class and the working poor, um, are experiencing minor. A minor is minorities are experiencing the pandemic pandemic differently. Um, can you give us a little perspective, um, on, uh, the healthcare reasons for this?
3	Himmelstein:	07:07	Actually, let me just close the door. So you’re not shaming that shower.
4	Speaker 2:	07:11	Okay. Yes. Good idea. And they won’t see me, so,
5	Himmelstein:	07:31	Yeah. Um, um, well, and DEMEC has really opened the fractures in our society was medically and socially and medically. What we know is many people are afraid to seek medical care or tests, uh, because they’re afraid of the costs because they distrust our healthcare system because of their past experiences with it. And we know that our healthcare system is ill-equipped to deal with a pandemic it’s really, um, works on commercial basis rather than a helping basis. And what that’s meant is just as hospitals, we’re busiest with COVID patients, they were laying off people because they were financially in trouble because they make money from elective procedures and other things that are much less urgent than COVID. So, um, that really revealed some of the problems they are in. We also have a healthcare system where hospitals, cookie with each other, rather than cooperate with each other.
6	Himmelstein:	08:44	So is it actually getting that community cooperation needed to confront this epidemic, um, was, uh, slow and still hasn’t happened yet. Um, and beyond that, we’d have a healthcare system that is for generations neglected prevention, and that’s become even more marked in the recent period. So our public health spending has been going down now for the last 17 years, and we spent only about two and a half percent of our health budget on public health measures, Canada spend 6% of its budget on public health. And what that means is we just didn’t have the frontline personnel to do the contact tracing, do the outreach to communities, uh, do the, the quarantine, uh, and other things that are really the basics of keeping a, a pandemic or an epidemic in check. And we’ve stayed behind and, and assembling those things. And of course, socially, um, we have such widespread poverty, um, and desperation in our society that we’ve been ill equipped socially to deal with the pandemic.
7	Himmelstein:	10:04	So we just published a study showing the 40% of people of color. Um, don’t have space in their homes to quarantine. If one member were to test positive or to be exposed to someone who, uh, is suspected of having coronavirus. And what that means is for people of color, we can tell them to quarantine or isolate, but they just can’t do it. And we haven’t taken the steps that some other countries have taken to say, well, if you don’t have room in your home department team, we’ll get you out I’ll room, we’ll bring you food. We’ll make sure you have your laundry done and hand your internet access and phone access paid for, um, so that you really can RNT. And of course, uh, it’s by and large people of color and poor people, um, who have been the essential workers who haven’t been allowed really are able to stay at home.
8	Himmelstein:	11:03	Um, even if they’re sick and we’re finding in some research, we’re doing that. A lot of people are going into work when they have COVID symptoms, because they really can’t afford to miss work. We don’t have paid sick leave for vast numbers of Americans and people are forced to not just go to work, but go to work on crowded, public transport, where they probably risk infection. So the whole ensemble of that has been, we have huge infection rates, and of course we have the disproportionate infections, uh, hen toll among the poor and among people of color.	COVID
9	Speaker 2:	11:47	Yeah. Some economists are warning that there’s a possibility for 20 million Americans to become, uh, homeless, um, by September 30th. How might that affect, uh, the pandemic and how might that affect, uh, healthcare in general?
10	Himmelstein:	12:06	Yeah, well, we’ve had a temporary stay of evictions, which is now expired in most parts of the country. Um, and by the way, even during that stay in evictions, it just said you couldn’t be evicted now, but, um, your rent bill was still piling up and you were just getting further and further behind. So people are at risk of eviction, imminently, and, uh, homelessness, we know is a big risk factor for infection because the homeless really can’t distance they’re thrown in just shelters where, um, in most cases they were at close quarters. And, um, there’s not that much testing available. A few locales have managed to do testing and the homeless and do isolation, but that’s the exception, not the rule and where you have vast homeless populations like in Southern California. Um, those folks have been particularly vulnerable to COVID in those are folks who were also vulnerable to getting seriously ill once they’re infected, because they bear a disproportionate burden of the underlying illnesses of having diabetes, having high blood pressure, uh, of having lung disease, um, that make you a high risk for, if you are infected, you’re going to get seriously ill from that infection.

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Jacobs2

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1	Speaker 1:	00:00:00	We talked about how like now even not having a bachelor’s degree means better than…	banter
2	Ken Jacobs:	00:00:05	Right.	banter, test, test2
3	Speaker 1:	00:00:06	It’s almost worthless at this point. We didn’t really touch on healthcare, and I don’t think we really touched on healthcare much, a little bit with maybe… We did Janet Gornick at CUNY, we touched on with her a little bit, but, I think bringing it up with you really good at this point. Feel free to interject, stop and say, let me discuss this, is perfectly fine.
4	Ken Jacobs:	00:00:32	Correct, sounds good.
5	Speaker 1:	00:00:33	If we miss a point, so like Stephen’s grave was brought up like, we miss the whole incarceration aspect of labor and everything and it was great. If there’s anything you think, feel free to interject. Okay, we’re ready?
6	Speaker 3:	00:00:49	We’re rolling.
7	Speaker 1:	00:00:51	Say your name, spell your name, look into the camera and tell us who you are.
8	Ken Jacobs:	00:00:55	Ken Jacobs, K-E-N J-A-C-O-B-S, and I’m the chair of the UC Berkeley labor center.
9	Speaker 1:	00:01:07	Okay. And then when we film just [inaudible 00:01:08]
10	Ken Jacobs:	00:01:07	Yeah.

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Kelton

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1	Speaker 1:	0:02:18	Okay. So just state your name and spell your name, to start.
2	Stephanie Kelto…:	0:02:26	Stephanie Kelton. S-T-E-P-H-A-N- I-E K-E-L-T-O-N.
3	Speaker 1:	0:02:34	Great. So just tell us about what do you do, and what you teach at Stony Brook and what your expertise are?
4	Stephanie Kelto…:	0:02:43	Well, I’m a macro economist and I teach at Stony Brook. I have kind of the best of both worlds in a sense. I get to teach in the economics department. I teach for them. I’ve been teaching a course on U.S. Economic policy, and then I also get to teach in the public policy, public administration program, which is in the political science department. So I get a foot in econ and a foot in the public policy program. It’s a master’s program, so I teach federal budgeting and finance and economic policy.
5	Speaker 2:	0:03:14	In 2016 you worked on the Sanders campaign too, right? Didn’t you?
6	Stephanie Kelto…:	0:03:21	Well, I was not-
7	Speaker 2:	0:03:22	Or an advisor?
8	Stephanie Kelto…:	0:03:23	…Yeah. I worked first for him in the Senate and then as an advisor, I went back to the university where I had been teaching for many years before joining the Senate and taking that position. So yes, in 2016 I was an external advisor to the campaign.
9	Speaker 2:	0:03:42	If you would just say, because we’re not going to hear his voice.
10	Stephanie Kelto…:	0:03:47	Repeat the… Build the question into the answer?

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Lehman

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wdt_ID	Speaker	Time	Dialogue	Keywords
1	Speaker 2:	0:06:10	[inaudible 00:06:10].
2	Aaron Lehmen:	0:06:21	It’s been about 25 years now. Our farm has been in our family for about 150 years.
3	Speaker 2:	0:06:56	How hard is it to be a small farmer?
4	Aaron Lehmen:	0:07:00	It’s constantly challenging, especially in today’s environment. A lot of agriculture is dominated by a few very, very large agribusinesses. So we’re getting fewer and fewer places to sell. We make fewer and fewer places to buy our inputs. More and more getting dominated by the large players.
5	Speaker 2:	0:07:59	Is it set up that way?
6	Aaron Lehmen:	0:08:02	Well, certainly. We’ve done nothing watching these agribusiness mergers come. We’ve done nothing to stop them and there’s no reason we shouldn’t have more competition. We have 1000s and 1000s of farmers working in individual communities. We’re all building up, because we have this broad base of people who are working the land. But then it gets bottleneck to just a few when we go to try to buy our inputs or to sell what we’ve made. And that hasn’t just happened overnight. It’s been years and years of allowing mergers and consolidations to go through that they don’t help farmers with prices. They don’t help innovate because he’s competing the normal and you have to compete against one another for new technologies, new products, that type of thing.
7	Aaron Lehmen:	0:08:55	And it certainly doesn’t help our rural communities because when there’s mergers, they consolidate their assets and then they pull out of towns in rural America. So it really doesn’t help anyone when it’s that consolidated. So I’m going to pull this out, but if you want me to stop.
8	Speaker 2:	0:09:14	No, keep going.
9	Aaron Lehmen:	0:09:14	All right.
10	Speaker 2:	0:09:14	I’m going to go in front. Got you.

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Miranda

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wdt_ID	Speaker	Time	Dialogue	Keyword
1	Speaker 2:	00:01	See, that’s stuff we want to hear.
2	Olga Miranda:	00:03	It’s bullshit.
3	Speaker 2:	00:05	That’s stuff we want to hear.
4	Olga Miranda:	00:06	Hi, Gladys. Gladys, listen, I’m calling you to tell you I just spoke to the company. They’re going to be at the Union in about 20 minutes because I have a federal mediation with them, and then after that I’m going to take the company down to the mall. All the crew wants to walk off the job and I need to go down there, and I’m going to take them with me to offer an apology to [inaudible 00:00:26] because it should’ve been handled a lot better. One I’m done here, I’ll text you. If you guys want to come back into the city in about, I don’t know … What freaking time is it, right now? It’s 10:42. Yeah.
5	Olga Miranda:	00:43	How about if you get there at around 12:30, 1:00? No, 12:30 is good. Yeah, yeah. Okay. But he showed up this morning. He showed up this morning, correct? Mm-hmm (affirmative).
6	Olga Miranda:	01:14	Yeah, no. I want the son of a bitch to offer him an apology in front of everybody. Okay? 12:30. 12:30 because I want to make sure that the company understands that they can’t fuck around with him that way. That’s not cool. Okay? All right, so I’ll see you there. Okay, great. Thank you. Bye-bye.
7	Olga Miranda:	01:37	Okay.
8	Speaker 2:	01:38	So how we doing?
9	Olga Miranda:	01:39	[inaudible 00:01:39]. Okay. Did you guys meet our vice president [inaudible 00:01:45] officer?
10	Speaker 2:	01:46	[crosstalk 00:01:46] very nice.

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Mitchell

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wdt_ID	Speaker	Time	Dialogue	Keywords
1	Speaker 1:	0:00:11	And, I mean, you’ve done these before, but when he asks you a question, “What’s your favorite baseball team?”, “My favorite baseball team is …” Because we’re not going to hear his question.
2	Stacy Mitchell:	0:00:22	Okay.
3	Speaker 1:	0:00:23	Yep.
4	Stacy Mitchell:	0:00:24	I’ll try to remember that.
5	Speaker 1:	0:00:24	Yeah.
6	Stacy Mitchell:	0:00:24	All right.
7	Speaker 1:	0:00:24	You ready?
8	Speaker 3:	0:00:24	Mm-hmm (affirmative).
9	Speaker 1:	0:00:24	Okay. You’re on right now?
10	Speaker 3:	0:00:29	Yeah.

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Murdock

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wdt_ID	Speaker	Time	Dialogue	Keywords
1	Speaker 1:	00:00	All the behind the scenes footage. All right. Cool. All right. Um, tell me about where you grew up.
2	Tony Murdock:	00:14	I grew up in a little small town called union city, Tennessee, uh, population, maybe 10,000 or so roughly, uh, just a small rural town grew up there, graduated high school, joined the Marines, came home and got a job at a local Goodyear plant. And that’s what we were just talking about.
3	Speaker 1:	00:35	And can you tell me, uh, how long that Goodyear plant was around and like, did like generations of people work?
4	Tony Murdock:	00:41	Oh yeah. Yeah, it was built in, uh, 1968. And, uh, so obviously it was there the whole time I was there growing up. Uh, my family didn’t work there, but a lot of my friends’ dads worked there. A lot of my baseball coaches and whatnot growing up, they weren’t there and it was, everybody knew somebody that worked there. I mean, it was the, kind of the backbone of the town.
5	Speaker 1:	01:06	And, um, would you say that if you grew up in that town, uh, because of that union, uh, you had a pretty stable life?
6	Tony Murdock:	01:20	Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Good. A good income, good, uh, benefits and, and whatnot. Sure.
7	Speaker 1:	01:28	And, uh, fathers and sons and daughters, they could all find work. Right. Um, how long did that go on for?
8	Tony Murdock:	01:42	Well, like I said, they got, they, they opened a plant in 1968 and, uh, I hired on in 1997 and a lot of people with a lot of, like I said, a lot of my friends that’s parents work there. They, they went to work out there and whatnot. So,
9	Speaker 1:	01:59	And is it a hard job?
10	Tony Murdock:	02:05	Uh, it was not easy. I mean, some jobs are, are easier than others, but I mean, you, I mean, you, you work hard, but you get, you, you got paid well and got paid well to do it, you know, waiting and do your job, you know, I mean, some, some jobs were more physical, some were more metal somewhere. Uh, yeah, of course. It just all depended on where you landed with your seniority and your bid and, and whatnot. You know, I chose, I chose to build tires because that’s where the more money was. I mean, it was, uh, it was not productive. It was not day work. It was piece work. So the more you build, the more you made. So I mean, yeah, and it, and it was, it was hard, it was hard work, but it was, you got compensated for it.

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Nazworth

	Speaker	Time	Dialogue	Keywords
wdt_ID	Speaker	Time	Dialogue	Keywords
1	Speaker 1:Speaker 2:Speaker 1:	00:0000:0400:06	… move or? No. I think we’re going to be okay. Nope. Okay. Actually I’m going to … you’re going to fix me up?	Monopoly, anti-trust
2	Speaker 3:	00:09	Yep.
3	Speaker 1:	00:12	Yeah.	anti-trust
4	Speaker 4:	00:13	[inaudible 00:00:13]. Don’t worry. [crosstalk 00:00:13] anyhow.
5	Speaker 2:	00:18	You know what? Bounce over here. Bounce over here. I got it. No, no, no. Jake.
6	Speaker 1:	00:48	I’m glad the [inaudible 00:00:49] these apartments are fixing them up. A bunch of new [inaudible 00:00:53] already.
7	Speaker 4:	00:54	Oh yeah. Now they’ve got to compete with you guys.
8	Speaker 1:	00:59	There’s so many of them. There’s like 700 units. That’s fucking huge. Do you know were originally developed at the same time?
9	Speaker 4:	01:09	I don’t know. They were obviously one development, but I don’t know if it was a multi phase or what it was. You’d go back looking through the chain of stuff, but it was bought about 18 or 24 months ago. I’m not sure, but it was part of one of the reasons we were more comfortable because it was going to be new ownership and everything because it’s like riverfront if you go down there.
10	Speaker 2:	01:39	Awesome. Even though that’s a better camera, this is the prettier camera. Yep. Awesome. That’s great. All right. If you could say and spell your name for the editor.

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Pitts

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wdt_ID	Speaker	Time	Dialogue	Keywords
1	Steven Pitts:	00:07	I’m Steven Pitts, S-T-E-V-E-N P-I-T-T-S. I’m associate chair here at the Center for Labor Research and Education at UC Berkeley.
2	Dave:	00:18	You ready?
3	Jeff:	00:23	Yes.
4	Dave:	00:26	Okay. At the labor center, you focus on issues of job quality and black workers. Tell us more about the initiative at the outgoing year.
5	Steven Pitts:	00:33	Yeah. Well, we started the initiative about maybe 15 years ago actually, and the idea was looking at the… called the black job crisis, and the larger frame for the crisis is that we have a two- dimensional job crisis in the black community. One with unemployment and low wage work, and often times a lot of the discussion and the activity and the resources focus on unemployment. But a lot of number of black people have jobs. They’re simply poor jobs. So we thought that, one, it’s important to kind of reframe the kind of context of the conversation with both dimensions of the problem, low wage work and unemployment. And from that we have three different kinds of streams of activities. One is a set of research projects that kind of look at the issue of low wage black work. Second is some training programs to try to improve the quality, organize, and looking at issues of labor in the black community. And third is the different tentacle systems programs. Some, as you know, dealt with the issues of a black and Latino interaction. Some have dealt with trying to help incubate new forms of black work organizing.	Black job crisis, low wage jobs
6	Dave:	01:37	Do you want to elaborate on any of those little… on the projects themselves? Because we were looking at the Black Union Leadership School, especially the initiative to-
7	Steven Pitts:	01:47	Can I cut a second? I have a question. So do you want like soundbites of 30 seconds? Or you want essays or five… I’m getting the sense of what-
8	Dave:	01:54	I kind of like the soundbites shown. What do you think?
9	Jeff:	01:57	Yeah, we can do both. [crosstalk 00:01:59].
10	Dave:	01:58	Yeah.

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Porta

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wdt_ID	Speaker	Time	Dialogue	Keywords
1	Stephanie Porta:	00:01	That it would be, basically, making around 80 something thousand dollars a year, which is so much what-
2	Speaker 3:	00:12	What did you have for breakfast?
3	Stephanie Porta:	00:48	Coffee.
4	Speaker 3:	00:48	What did you have for dinner last night?
5	Stephanie Porta:	00:53	What did I have? Sandwich. I was driving back from Suwannee River.
6	Speaker 3:	01:04	Tell me a little bit about that. What parks did you go to?
7	Stephanie Porta:	01:06	On the road trip?
8	Speaker 3:	01:10	Yeah.
9	Stephanie Porta:	01:10	We went to Badlands. We went to [Grand Tetons 00:01:14]. We went Yosemite and Yellowstone and Joshua Tree and Zion and Redwoods and Sequoia.
10	Speaker 3:	01:23	Awesome.

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Porta2

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wdt_ID	Speaker	Time	Dialogue	Keywords
1	Speaker 1:	00:05	Yeah, it’s been a wild week here. Oh my God.
2	Stephanie Porta:	00:11	We’re saying over, um, we think it’s like, or estimating that it’s like over 30,000 evictions in 45 days. Oh my God. Yeah. Or at least filed.
3	Speaker 1:	00:22	Yeah. And what they’ve been doing we’ve been noticing is that they switched company names. So they get the paperwork, they don’t understand what to do if they don’t realize that the file with the court.
4	Stephanie Porta:	00:35	No. And, and like, it’s crazy to me that we have government offices delivering, like the Sheriff’s deputy is delivering eviction notices, but not telling people how they can stop it. It’s like what? Like
5	Speaker 1:	00:50	It’s, it’s complete insanity. Um, so, uh, w what we’ve seen over the past year of filming this over and over and over again is, um, that it appears that the judicial system, the representatives that are supposed to, um, protect us, um, are not representing the people and that, uh, they’re actually perpetrating. Um, and it’s, um, so w you sort started seeing this financialization of, of real estate and financialization of everything and, um, no real, um, ability for the, for the people to, to have, uh, representation. What, what do you, what do you think about that? Um, I think,
6	Stephanie Porta:	02:13	But that, that is the way the state was built and it won’t change until the people seize power and revamp their systems exist.
7	Speaker 1:	02:27	Um, can you tell us a little bit about, uh, how many evictions, um, well, like what you just said before?
8	Stephanie Porta:	02:34	Yeah. Um, so our estimates are, and not every County in the state is online. Um, the, the eviction systems, but our estimates are that in the last 45 days, over 30,000 people have received eviction notices or 30 over 30,000 families have received eviction notice.
9	Speaker 1:	02:55	We watched, um, uh, two sisters who were, were, I’ve been given 10 minutes to get whatever they could out of the apartment. And then they locked the doors and sealed Leopold, plywood, um, yeah. Pretty, pretty tough stuff. Um, do you think that the representatives represent the people? I think some of them do well, what would you say to the ones that don’t
10	Stephanie Porta:	03:34	The corporations, aren’t actually people and they’re there to represent the people who live in the state, the people who are trying to thrive in this state, um, and the people who are showing up at the ballot box, not the dollars that come into their campaigning.

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Price_Dan

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wdt_ID	Speaker	Time	Dialogue	Keywords
1	Speaker 1:	00:00:00	Well, where’s the footage. [inaudible]
2	Dan Price:	00:01:31	All right. I guess I’ll I guess, um, probably get back to me at midnight to live your
3	Speaker 1:	00:01:52	[inaudible].
4	Dan Price:	00:01:54	Hello, Dan? Yes. Dan here. Hey Dan. It’s Dave. Hey Dave, how are you? How are ya? I’m only gonna be on the call for a couple of minutes, just so there’s no technical issues like me bumping the audio, but I just want to say hi and yeah. You know, just want to, just want to get to Mika. Yeah, we’re really excited. We, as I told you, we were out in Seattle, October and October shooting for a week and yeah, we should make it up to him price while we were, you know, we hit like maybe half an hour and we did some shooting with the watching state labor board and the AFL CIO with, uh, cool other poverty groups, like solid ground in Seattle. And then we got out, uh, and then of course, like the tween us, we like every day we’re sending at least one or two tweets in our, in our group, you know, back and forth.
5	Dan Price:	00:02:49	And we’re like, Oh, I’m like that. So last week I was like, I’m just writing Dan now and see if we’ll do it. Yeah, totally, really excited to have you, man. Ain’t we really admire what you’ve been doing and, you know, you’re kind of for our film because it’s looking like, you know, we’re pushing towards a film than a docu series and we’re starting to talk to distributors now. Cool. Um, so you’re kind of like the model, future CEO that we want to kind of tell out there, you know, um, you know, show, you know, how things can be, you know, so that would be, that would be great because, uh, yeah, I would be, that’d be totally fine getting a lot less credit and a lot less attention just being able to live my life. We can make, make this the norm, which is what you’re like.
6	Dan Price:	00:03:37	You’re a complete anomaly. Yeah. It should really be the norm though. Did you get to watch the real? Yeah, it was great. Yeah. Yeah. It’s turned out really well. We’re pretty excited about it. So it’s been a lot of hard work, you know, the financing out of pocket, you know, and, uh, it’s, you know, now it’s starting to get some attention, you know, everything’s coming to a head, so we’re excited. I’m going to jump off and Sean classy our directors on to, um, he’ll do the interview. And once again, Dan, thanks so much for doing this and thank you, Dave. And I’ll of course, keep you posted on everything. Oh, that’s great. Okay. I shit. It great. Thank you. Take care. You too.
7	Speaker 3:	00:04:23	Hey, Dan, uh, Sean, um, I’m not seeing, I’m not seeing your, um, your video.
8	Dan Price:	00:04:32	Oh, that’s my bad. There
9	Speaker 3:	00:04:33	We go. Awesome. And I don’t know why I’m not seeing
10	Dan Price:	00:04:37	Lifted a little right. A little higher.

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